Lindy and Cursor shift production workloads to Chinese models DeepSeek v4 and Kimi K2

I know how the US can and should do open source AI. It is not like China.

We have 17 months.

I can say making ANY model throttled will send us to the AI dark ages.

The Anthropic Apocalypse Fallout is MASSIVE.

They have handed China the largest technological win in history.

What we're building is

https://offloop.org/

Where set agents & people work together in the workspace

@vveerrgg @VoxRelay @Alibaba_Qwen Qwen is insanely good at audio. I’ve been using it since 2023 for meeting recordings, podcasts, and anything voice-related. It’s totally free.

@yuhasbeentaken Are you a Chinese bot? Serious question.

@ReadFuturist 😂😂

@yuhasbeentaken the conversation scoring & analysis I use on @VoxRelay is @Alibaba_Qwen based.

There’s no way I could afford a western frontier model. Nor would I want my platform / programmed analysis training their platforms

@yuhasbeentaken what do you think about second best OSS model for multi agent stuff?

minimax m3 OR kimi k2.7

minimax is 2x smaller, but in benchmarks on par with kimi

btw minimax subscription is the best subscription ever in all OSS models, nearly 3b tokens for 50usd, it's like kimis 100usd

@y_qecea great questions:

overall multi-agent - Minimax m3

multi-agent coding - kimi k2.7

minimax M3 may be the best-value open-weight model for multi-agent workloads right now

@BrianRoemmele If you think I'm pushing even a single line of code to a Chinese model, you're deluded. Anyone who cares about their own IP would be stupid af to hand it over to China.

@yuhasbeentaken How many are paying China for inference? 😂

None. Because not single one of these companies will allow their data to touch China or Chinese servers.

Thanks for building us free AI though!

@yuhasbeentaken source for the above? shopify? ubereats? siemens source?

@BrianRoemmele So Chinese AI firms get to trawl LibGen, Z-Library, Anna’s Archive, DuXiu, etc. without consequence while Anthropic had to cut up & scan millions of books & other Western firms had to remove materials in their training corpus due to lawsuits, nerfing models.

@TomasMann1878 Lindy 100%

@ReadFuturist @yuhasbeentaken Is Michael Spencer

@ReadFuturist a right wing fascist Trump nazi? Fair question.

@yuhasbeentaken Too much propaganda on western social media, even I'm an AI bull for China and this is poisoning trust in your ecosystem.

You need to build actual companies with revenue.

@Bound2Liberty Douglass thinking folks use local models. It ain’t calling home.

@yuhasbeentaken appreciate your answer, I love you profile so much, only very good contents.

but which of them might be better orchestrator and main coder at the same time